Interview made to Lacrimosa during
the program "Gaveta 12" on May 23, 1998.
Clauzzen: They wanted
to visit Mexico a long time ago; they were just waiting
for the best moment to do it and thank us our patience.
Tilo is very happy because though his music is sung
in German and it is not very easy to understand, is
impressive the number of people that follow him.
Clauzzen: Is this
your first time in this continent?
Lacrimosa: Yes, as
Lacrimosa. In private we have been in some cities of
USA like San Francisco and Los Angeles.
Clauzzen: Did you
have a specific image of Mexico, before talking with
the people that contacted you?
Tilo: We are big fans
of the movies and we have closed to Mexican movies,
but they had been cliché images, stereotypes.
We just arrive here and we can’t be aware of what
to expect.
Anne: As well in letter
they send photos. And one of the most fascinating things
is to see how Lacrimosa’s fans are.
Clauzzen: They are
some cliches, when we watch TV we suddenly notice a
strong and worrying tendency to the racism and Nazism
in Germany and Nordic countries.
Tilo: We are not a
band which goes to the stage in order to say our politic,
religious, etc, points of view. It is only what we think
and believe, but we are not trying to choose a direction.
It is very bad that some bands use the stage in order
to project all of these questions. Once upon a time
in Germany, the gothic scene was associated with these
neo Nazi movements, but we don’t have anything
to do with that, besides that was not the objective
of the gothic scene, they were different things.
Anne: Lacrimosa's
objective is that people have their own opinions and
do not follow the others opinions just because they
are on stage.
Clauzzen: This is
a necessary question that we don’t like to do,
but we ask to all band to give us a brief story of what
has been the band.
Tilo: Since I was
on the school, I always liked to write my feelings,
poetry, short stories and suddenly I was anxious to
combine it with something atmospheric. At the beginning
I wanted to do a cassette that I'd like that only my
friends were listened to, with certain sounds and effect
sounds, and then I couldn’t stop. I always look
for independency from a recording studio, which would
tell me what and how to do, but I always tried to keep
my independence in order to do what I really wanted
to do. Tilo mentioned his first albums and said that
"Satura" is a conjunction of stories joined
together (something conceptual) and also is a gift of
the gods. Later, Anne enters, I met her when I saw her
on stage and she amazed me with her projection, first
I just wanted someone who sang the choirs, but I was
fascinated with her and I felt I needed the contrast
(as the cover art of the cds that are a contrast between
black and white), so I was fascinated for the way in
which feelings could be expressed as I saw it in Anne
and that was when she enters. We started to work together,
the chemistry was immediate.
Anne: It was not easy
for me to make the decision of leaving "Two Witches",
a band in which I were for 7 years, but also I was surprised
for Tilo’s proposal and I mainly was amazed for
the way Tilo compose music, it was not easy but I don’t
regret, I took my things and went to Switzerland.
Clauzzen: How hard
is to find several things that are like barriers inside
Lacrimosa's music? As the one you mentioned: the language…
Tilo: The lyrics are
important, first are the lyrics and then is the music,
but the music is like a kind of mirror of the lyrics
which through… That like a fusion, they will be
really impressive. You realize if the lyrics are expressing
their meaning through the music, even when the language
in which they are sung is not well understood. One of
the things that amazes me the most is when suddenly
some people tell me what they feel with our songs and
it is exactly what the lyrics of the songs mean, and
this indicates us that we are in the right way, because
at the end the music is totally fused with the lyrics.
Anne: One of the most
important things is that each one does a kind of paint,
a picture of interpretation of each one of the parts
that usually coincide, even when you are not really
convinced or you don't know what exactly are telling
us the lyrics. So that in the last releases we have
included the lyrics in English so as to leave more people
could understand them easier (because English is the
universal language).
Clauzzen: Could you
please tell us about the general themes of Lacrimosa?
Lacrimosa: Considering
the art is different perceptions we can have about a
"bottle" (during the interview was a bottle
in front of them and they used it as an example); but
what are the different points of perception?, that is
what Lacrimosa is trying to do, to express a life-style,
to express feelings, it is always fascinating to discover
what is the soul and human mind, for example, "Stolzes
Herz" tell us about how many times you fall down
and then you only have to stand up with a smile on your
face, but you realize that you have fallen down, then
there are those kind of human expressions, about knowing
what is the mind and human feelings, this is one of
the main ideas of Lacrimosa.
Clauzzen: How do you
describe your music?
Lacrimosa: We describe
it as dark music, classic metal. We grew up with what
was the 80's classic gothic scene, bands like Bauhaus
that even when they don't exist any more, always bring
that kind of emotions with us. However, we have to go
beyond because there are many bands that try to copy
the work of these great bands, but where are you really
going to? We are not interested in someone who tells
us: "that drums don’t sound as gothic"
because we cannot find the point, and the main idea
is give all the evolution and development to this kind
of music, there are many bands which try to copy but
at the end, one of the most important things in Lacrimosa’s
music is the classic music that some obscure bands don’t
point out how it may be or the influence it may have.
Clauzzen: What kind
of people follow or go to Lacrimosa's concerts?
Tilo: They are a lot
of people, since those guys who like metal until gothic
guys, mostly gothics of course, as well "normal"
people go: as the parents, people older than us, but
the most fascinating is to see all these people joined
there without conflicts, without problems, enjoying
a proposal that is our proposal (Lacrimosa’s).
Clauzzen: What are
your influences (of any type)?
Anne: Everything,
each act of life, each thing I breath, each thing I
see, there is not really something that influence you
directly because you weren't doing the yours truly,
or everything will be… for example, I can't tell
I like Metallica and then steal them a riff, we don’t
manage it in that way.
Tilo: Many times you
have different influences, but the thing is to transform
this into something new. For example, when we recorded
"Angst", which does not have guitars or drums
but everything is with keyboards, I was very influenced
by Bauhaus in that time, however, if you listened to
"Angst" it does not seems like them, that
is fascinating, use your influences in order to transform
them into something totally new.
Clauzzen: How much
support do you receive in your country?
Lacrimosa: Metal scene
and gothic scene have different treatment, we can see
that nobody dares to touch the gothic, unless this movement
is starting to come out and in some places it is played
this music. Despite the album "Stille" has
had a high ingress to the charts, the most important
music channel did not play it, and that is unfair.
Clauzzen: What do
you think about people who are jealousy because specific
music of some specific bands is played for the media
(as the radio)?
Lacrimosa: On one
hand it is comprehensible that this may occur, is the
human nature, because you always think you have something
special, and when you listen to it massively, it means
they are entering to your world. On the other hand,
this is an attitude that shouldn't be taken, that is
not correct, because is a little unfair, for example:
if only some of the present people have our albums,
we couldn't come here, and one of the great problems
and misunderstandings in this medium is that if a band
goes out is bad.
Clauzzen: What is
the meaning of the Harlequin (clown) for each one of
you?
Tilo: It is that you
cannot always touch the music (that sometimes you cannot
see or touch the music), and what is the harlequin is
Lacrimosa itself, he is placing our contrasts.
Anne: Contrasts of
melancholy-happiness. When I met him for the first time
on 1993 and the moment I listened to the music, he is
the summary of all that could be read between lines
about Lacrimosa.
Tilo: Charles Chaplin
shape influenced it, since he was a person who could
found the essence in a beautiful way and went deeper
and all of this is represented by the harlequin.
Clauzzen: What could
be expected of this Lacrimosa's concert?
Lacrimosa: Well, this
is like an album or like our music, you cannot say that
you can expect this thing or that other thing, but you
have to discover it, mainly because it is not something
theatrical, it is only the things following their way,
flowing, each concert is unique and the people's feedback
is important, that interchange of feelings and since
there depends a lot how is flowing Lacrimosa's play.
By now, we cannot say more because we just arrive here,
but we are sure that at the moment we take the airplane
to go back to our home we'll have a lot of memories
we are not going to forget, and we hope not to disappoint
you with our work. And thanks to all the people that
have followed our music, despite the barrier of language
and for being loyal to us because thanks to you we are
in Mexico.